As much as I admire Elena Stein's spirit and courage I think she has an error in the way she refers to America and Israel. America and Israel are so finely intertwined that one honestly has to say that it’s a single international monster. It is an American war (at least as much as it is an Israeli war, if not more so American). It’s an international mafia (US, UK, Europe) of massive proportions and it is criminal to the core. If America stops those deliveries, the UK or Germany will step in as a way to bypass this. We are waking up late to this network of international crime.
If I needed to bet I'd say most of these industrial networks are in non-governmental hands, so calling this murky apparatus by the name of "America" (or "UK") is a bit inaccurate (and I make this error myself). Our so-called "governments" are just a shell to a vast private mechanism (which is most likely totally criminal as they have total impunity because they are hiding behind "governmental" outfit).
So much so that we lack even the proper language to describe how rogue this worldwide operation of dirty financial interests really is. It is enmeshed with legitimate governmental institution and the corruption there is sky high. The whole thing is rotten to the core, attracting the worst businessmen and criminals from around the world.
On top of that we mustn't forget that good old legacy media (the beloved BBC for example) is totally bullshiting us left right and centre by telling us nonsense like: "America asks Israel to increase humanitarian help", "America gives Israel a deadline to provide food"... They professionally nudge the public's mindset towards a false image that American government is in control of things while effectively this is far bigger and outside the hands of the President because "his" governmental machinery is effectively in the hands of private mega-money overlords and for decades by now.
Just my opinion (which is sadly probably more than opinion). Sorry to babble on this but I think this is bigger that most are thinking.
Please do not apologise. Your voice and your opinions matter, and what you say is valid and true. You are of course right that this is far bigger than we are thinking, or rather the rot reaches far deeper than we realise. States have long been hijacked by corporations. I think it began with the emergence of neoliberalism. But we still must hold our governments to account.
In the spirit of talking about repeating past patterns, it occurred to me that in the past when there were kings and queens it was the same thing. Those with the money and assets were the ones in power and were running societies. Democracy was supposed to change that, but then we have allowed it to be hijacked by corporations, so we are back in the bad old days where heredity, money and assets rule our world…
It is very clear that neoliberalism and democracy are not compatible. Neoliberalism loves dictatorships and dictators. Power in the hands of the masses is not acceptable in a neoliberalist reality. I believe that given the chance, if we let it happen, neoliberalism would bring slavery, and child labour back in a heartbeat. We have to stop colluding.
Well done Elena Stein for calling out the vile hypocrisy of the US. There is no human rights operating within US policy regarding Israel. Just profits and the strategic oil assets of the region. The US has always and only been about profits. Maybe it’s time to start boycotting all goods imported from the US?
Good idea! I have just read that the US gave 30 days to Israel to comply with allowing aid to Gaza or they will enact an arms embargo. I doubt this would happen because the elections are very close. And who knows what will happen in the US after the elections…
You might want to write to Elena directly at JVP… I don’t know her personally but I am sure you can contact JVP via their website. I share your anger and frustration with the world.
Yes, she is a strong speaker and said what needed to be said. What she said is well known. What is strange is why those who speak out are such a minority. Where is everyone else? The US public is languishing in a neoliberal nightmare and the US keeps throwing these people’s money on a genocide. If things have not been clear to Americans before, they should be now.
Israel, and 7 million Jewish Israelis, are fighting for their survival. The Iran-funded terror groups smelled blood and decided in unison that this is the moment to decimate Israelis who are a thorn in their thin skin and small head.
You should be ashamed for supporting these blood suckers! You carry a distinguished Jewish Sefardy family name. I suspect the ancient Abarbanels are turning in their graves with disgust and horror with their present inheritor of their name. Finally the Jews refuse to be the victims and pursue the antisemites until their bitter end.
Israel is a settler-colonial state built to fulfil the original Zionist plan to remove *all* the non-Jewish indigenous inhabitants of historic Palestine, and replace them with Jews.
Settler-colonialism is a crime against humanity no matter who commits it, or who the victim is. If you do not know what I am talking about, you need to find out. I wouldn’t blame you either. I remember the first time I learned this after having spend the first part of my life under Zionist indoctrination. My brain would not compute it. But it is not difficult to learn a bit of real history, because outside the confines of the Zionist selective and fraudulent version of history, there is plenty of proper history and mountains of evidence to satisfy even you.
I recommend any book by Ilan Pappé, if you are open to have your belief system challenged. Another really good book is The Hundred Years War on Palestine by Professor Rashid Khalidi. And it is a belief system only that you have, not something that is based on any factual knowledge. If you are not prepared to find out, and have your beliefs challenged, then you are just someone who acts emotively on what you think you know, and with complete blindness to factual evidence. So keep yelling, while your own society commits one of the most horrendous genocides in modern history.
If you continue to support settler-colonialism and genocide in the name of your tribal loyalty and fear of antisemitism, do not be surprised when you find yourself on the wrong side of history, and when the rest of humanity see you as a collaborator with genocide. It is coming.
Just out of curiosity, why would you bother to comment here just to attack me as a person? Are you so scared that the only intelligent thing you are able to do is yell insults at me?… I have no idea what you believe yelling insults at me is going to achieve. Israel is murdering tens of thousands of people in cold blood, 70% of whom are children, and it is starving the survivors to death. 1.2million people in Lebanon are displaced, and when they tried to escape to Syria, Isreal bombed their escape route. Your war criminal soldiers, that you worship so much, commit sadistic acts of torture, and post videos online. I know exactly what Israel is up to, and what it is trying to achieve and it is visible to everyone. Israel is barely hiding it anymore.
In what universe do you imagine Israel is on the right side of the story here? One thing I learned from growing up in Israel is not to put up with abuse from anyone, not even someone with the name Aharon. So if you insist on hurling abuse at me, instead of trying to find out why I and many others are saying what we are saying, I will remove you from my Substack.
And shame? Shame does not even begin to describe what you should be feeling. I am deeply disgusted and dismayed by people who lack empathy towards victims, and you, or Israel are not the victim in this story.
In order to satisfy your curiosity I will disclose here what motivated me to comment on your diatribes on Israel. First, I recognized that you spell your first name as in Hebrew, "Avigail" instead of the English spelling "Abigail". Second, I recognized the historical significance of your last name, "Abarbanel". In medieval Portugal Yehuda Abarbanel was the state treasurer and a supreme Jewish scholar. He was one of the richest man in the Iberian Peninsula but refused to convert. The end result was that he and his family was forced to leave and ended up totally impoverished and died in Venice. Having his name carries some responsibility concerning the fate of the Jews in our time. Instead, you have taken the path to side with the antisemites and the Jewish haters. I am disgusted and ashamed to belong to the same tribe as you are.
Please remove me from your nonsensical and hateful "Substake". I assume you have nothing else to occupy your days and nights. Thanks.
Soo Paul you are not disgussed by the IDF soldiers mass raping people including children, shooting children in the head, burning people alive. You are ok, with expropriating people from their land, taking their houses oppressing people for 75 years, all this with the financial and military support of US, UK etc.
All the above is right in your mind?
And if someone says all the above is wrong, apparently they are 'anti-semite'?
Honest question, an honest answer please if you can
Actually it was Don Yitzhak Abarbanel/Abravanel, not Yehuda.
There are two ways to live in this world, my friend. One is as fearful small people, succumbing to fear and huddling together with their perceived ‘tribe’ for protection, at the exclusion of everyone, and everything else. The other, is as full human beings, members of the human species, whose motivation is not fear, but making life good for *everyone*, and helping *everyone* grow into full humanness.
I feel so sad for you that you are letting fear decide for you how to live in the world. Living in constant fear, seeking vengeance, and committing mass murder makes for a miserable life. It is so sad to see in you how well Hitler succeeded… He convinced you that the only way to live is in isolation with your ‘race’ (a fictitious concept), hide, and kill others you don’t like, or are frightened of. Hitler would be laughing himself silly, seeing what Israel is doing.
Tribal loyalty is an understandable sentiment, but it comes out of a very primitive, existential fear. When I left Israel at age 27, I embarked on a journey to no longer live in fear, and to live a full life. I am a human being, not a label or a name that I happen to have.
I will not allow my life to be reduced to mere survival, because people with your kind of psychology think that this is the only way for humans to live.
You have abandoned your humanity, (which, like it or not, you share with *everyone* on our planet), in favour of one fearful, profoundly limited group that is committing a heinous crime against members of its own species.
You are making your choice, and I am making mine. It is ludicrous that you are essentially telling me off for choosing to be a full human being, as opposed to a frightened little mammal. Can you see how absurd this is? And why would any human being wish this kind of existence on another?
None of us is safe, if what you mean by safe is not dying. Death comes to all at some point. What matters is not how long we live, but *how* we live and how we use our time and our gifts.
It is ok for you to feel everything you feel. It is what you feel. As a fellow human being, I’m just so sorry for you for the chronic anxiety, and fear you have succumbed to. I wish you only well, but it does not mean I accept what you are prepared to do in the name of your fear, and the (perceived) survival of your ‘people’. We are and always will be members of the same species.
I stand to be corrected; indeed, Yhudah Abarbanel was the father of Don Isaac Abarbanel.
One of your disciples named Sasha wrote the following, quote: "Soo Paul you are not disgussed by the IDF soldiers mass raping people including children, shooting children in the head, burning people alive".
I wish "Sasha" pays more attention to English grammar instead of repeating a litany of unfounded terrible accusations copied from Hitler's Mein Kamph.
How someone with your pedigree and education approves of such an outrageous bunch of lies makes me wonder...
As an IDF veteran I state without hesitation that IDF soldiers will never, ever engage in barbaric behavior such as it is attributed by your follower Sasha. Perhaps she meant Palestinian Hamas and instead she mistakenly typed IDF. One typo per text is excusable, but Sasha has too many typos to be excused.
You bring a YouTube clip made by Qatar-funded Al Jazeera as evidence of IDF soldiers "barbarism"? Have you asked yourself how objective and truthful are the disjointed film strips glued together by a Qatari film editor?
I am concerned with the sanity of Jews/Israelis who deliberately add fuel to the pyre aiming to wipe out the State of Israel and its 7 million Jewish inhabitants.
Hmm... the question of whether JVP reeks of "gatekeeper" vibes is interesting since you bring it up -- this probably did ever-so-slightly pass through my mind in the past few weeks. OSF appears to have donated a great sum of money to JVP, and its leader Soros is a Zionist gatekeeper as I covered in my "fake Palestine supporters" series... in case it may be of interest for you, Avigail: https://adversusbabylon.substack.com/p/exposing-fake-palestine-supporters-36a
As much as I admire Elena Stein's spirit and courage I think she has an error in the way she refers to America and Israel. America and Israel are so finely intertwined that one honestly has to say that it’s a single international monster. It is an American war (at least as much as it is an Israeli war, if not more so American). It’s an international mafia (US, UK, Europe) of massive proportions and it is criminal to the core. If America stops those deliveries, the UK or Germany will step in as a way to bypass this. We are waking up late to this network of international crime.
I agree with you. We are waking up late. Keep an eye for my next piece. Thank you Ben for your comment.
If I needed to bet I'd say most of these industrial networks are in non-governmental hands, so calling this murky apparatus by the name of "America" (or "UK") is a bit inaccurate (and I make this error myself). Our so-called "governments" are just a shell to a vast private mechanism (which is most likely totally criminal as they have total impunity because they are hiding behind "governmental" outfit).
So much so that we lack even the proper language to describe how rogue this worldwide operation of dirty financial interests really is. It is enmeshed with legitimate governmental institution and the corruption there is sky high. The whole thing is rotten to the core, attracting the worst businessmen and criminals from around the world.
On top of that we mustn't forget that good old legacy media (the beloved BBC for example) is totally bullshiting us left right and centre by telling us nonsense like: "America asks Israel to increase humanitarian help", "America gives Israel a deadline to provide food"... They professionally nudge the public's mindset towards a false image that American government is in control of things while effectively this is far bigger and outside the hands of the President because "his" governmental machinery is effectively in the hands of private mega-money overlords and for decades by now.
Just my opinion (which is sadly probably more than opinion). Sorry to babble on this but I think this is bigger that most are thinking.
Please do not apologise. Your voice and your opinions matter, and what you say is valid and true. You are of course right that this is far bigger than we are thinking, or rather the rot reaches far deeper than we realise. States have long been hijacked by corporations. I think it began with the emergence of neoliberalism. But we still must hold our governments to account.
In the spirit of talking about repeating past patterns, it occurred to me that in the past when there were kings and queens it was the same thing. Those with the money and assets were the ones in power and were running societies. Democracy was supposed to change that, but then we have allowed it to be hijacked by corporations, so we are back in the bad old days where heredity, money and assets rule our world…
It is very clear that neoliberalism and democracy are not compatible. Neoliberalism loves dictatorships and dictators. Power in the hands of the masses is not acceptable in a neoliberalist reality. I believe that given the chance, if we let it happen, neoliberalism would bring slavery, and child labour back in a heartbeat. We have to stop colluding.
They way they look and grab power hints towards fascism… I hope for the sake of the children that I’m wrong but the signs aren’t too good.
https://newpol.org/facing-the-fascist-danger-autumn-2024/
Just google "early signs of fascism" to see how many results...
If this is true, please call it USA and not america. mrs Stein does, too.
I do mostly refer to the US as it is, rather than America. The US is not ‘America’, which is the continent the US shares with many other countries.
Well done Elena Stein for calling out the vile hypocrisy of the US. There is no human rights operating within US policy regarding Israel. Just profits and the strategic oil assets of the region. The US has always and only been about profits. Maybe it’s time to start boycotting all goods imported from the US?
Good idea! I have just read that the US gave 30 days to Israel to comply with allowing aid to Gaza or they will enact an arms embargo. I doubt this would happen because the elections are very close. And who knows what will happen in the US after the elections…
Such an important message, Avigail. We all have a role to play, and we must.
👍😊
Dear ELENA,
I am not an Anti- Anything except some Judges ….because Judges are People’s Last Resort !
So, I am also not an Anti- Famous Semite !
But, as you can see, it is the SEASON for it !
So, Be it !
Look at the Closing Hour Ritual by the Most Moral Army, the IDF - Israel Dirty F - - kers !
There won’t be another Chance to say Anti - anything …..so hoped Hitler too !
You might want to write to Elena directly at JVP… I don’t know her personally but I am sure you can contact JVP via their website. I share your anger and frustration with the world.
Thank you, I let everyone know !
Such a powerful speech it brought me to tears . It was so good to hear there are still some voices of sanity amongst the Jewish people.
Yes, she is a strong speaker and said what needed to be said. What she said is well known. What is strange is why those who speak out are such a minority. Where is everyone else? The US public is languishing in a neoliberal nightmare and the US keeps throwing these people’s money on a genocide. If things have not been clear to Americans before, they should be now.
They’ve been doing amazing solidarity work.
Israel, and 7 million Jewish Israelis, are fighting for their survival. The Iran-funded terror groups smelled blood and decided in unison that this is the moment to decimate Israelis who are a thorn in their thin skin and small head.
You should be ashamed for supporting these blood suckers! You carry a distinguished Jewish Sefardy family name. I suspect the ancient Abarbanels are turning in their graves with disgust and horror with their present inheritor of their name. Finally the Jews refuse to be the victims and pursue the antisemites until their bitter end.
Am Israel Hai!!!
Israel is a settler-colonial state built to fulfil the original Zionist plan to remove *all* the non-Jewish indigenous inhabitants of historic Palestine, and replace them with Jews.
Settler-colonialism is a crime against humanity no matter who commits it, or who the victim is. If you do not know what I am talking about, you need to find out. I wouldn’t blame you either. I remember the first time I learned this after having spend the first part of my life under Zionist indoctrination. My brain would not compute it. But it is not difficult to learn a bit of real history, because outside the confines of the Zionist selective and fraudulent version of history, there is plenty of proper history and mountains of evidence to satisfy even you.
I recommend any book by Ilan Pappé, if you are open to have your belief system challenged. Another really good book is The Hundred Years War on Palestine by Professor Rashid Khalidi. And it is a belief system only that you have, not something that is based on any factual knowledge. If you are not prepared to find out, and have your beliefs challenged, then you are just someone who acts emotively on what you think you know, and with complete blindness to factual evidence. So keep yelling, while your own society commits one of the most horrendous genocides in modern history.
If you continue to support settler-colonialism and genocide in the name of your tribal loyalty and fear of antisemitism, do not be surprised when you find yourself on the wrong side of history, and when the rest of humanity see you as a collaborator with genocide. It is coming.
Just out of curiosity, why would you bother to comment here just to attack me as a person? Are you so scared that the only intelligent thing you are able to do is yell insults at me?… I have no idea what you believe yelling insults at me is going to achieve. Israel is murdering tens of thousands of people in cold blood, 70% of whom are children, and it is starving the survivors to death. 1.2million people in Lebanon are displaced, and when they tried to escape to Syria, Isreal bombed their escape route. Your war criminal soldiers, that you worship so much, commit sadistic acts of torture, and post videos online. I know exactly what Israel is up to, and what it is trying to achieve and it is visible to everyone. Israel is barely hiding it anymore.
In what universe do you imagine Israel is on the right side of the story here? One thing I learned from growing up in Israel is not to put up with abuse from anyone, not even someone with the name Aharon. So if you insist on hurling abuse at me, instead of trying to find out why I and many others are saying what we are saying, I will remove you from my Substack.
And shame? Shame does not even begin to describe what you should be feeling. I am deeply disgusted and dismayed by people who lack empathy towards victims, and you, or Israel are not the victim in this story.
In order to satisfy your curiosity I will disclose here what motivated me to comment on your diatribes on Israel. First, I recognized that you spell your first name as in Hebrew, "Avigail" instead of the English spelling "Abigail". Second, I recognized the historical significance of your last name, "Abarbanel". In medieval Portugal Yehuda Abarbanel was the state treasurer and a supreme Jewish scholar. He was one of the richest man in the Iberian Peninsula but refused to convert. The end result was that he and his family was forced to leave and ended up totally impoverished and died in Venice. Having his name carries some responsibility concerning the fate of the Jews in our time. Instead, you have taken the path to side with the antisemites and the Jewish haters. I am disgusted and ashamed to belong to the same tribe as you are.
Please remove me from your nonsensical and hateful "Substake". I assume you have nothing else to occupy your days and nights. Thanks.
Soo Paul you are not disgussed by the IDF soldiers mass raping people including children, shooting children in the head, burning people alive. You are ok, with expropriating people from their land, taking their houses oppressing people for 75 years, all this with the financial and military support of US, UK etc.
All the above is right in your mind?
And if someone says all the above is wrong, apparently they are 'anti-semite'?
Honest question, an honest answer please if you can
Actually it was Don Yitzhak Abarbanel/Abravanel, not Yehuda.
There are two ways to live in this world, my friend. One is as fearful small people, succumbing to fear and huddling together with their perceived ‘tribe’ for protection, at the exclusion of everyone, and everything else. The other, is as full human beings, members of the human species, whose motivation is not fear, but making life good for *everyone*, and helping *everyone* grow into full humanness.
I feel so sad for you that you are letting fear decide for you how to live in the world. Living in constant fear, seeking vengeance, and committing mass murder makes for a miserable life. It is so sad to see in you how well Hitler succeeded… He convinced you that the only way to live is in isolation with your ‘race’ (a fictitious concept), hide, and kill others you don’t like, or are frightened of. Hitler would be laughing himself silly, seeing what Israel is doing.
Tribal loyalty is an understandable sentiment, but it comes out of a very primitive, existential fear. When I left Israel at age 27, I embarked on a journey to no longer live in fear, and to live a full life. I am a human being, not a label or a name that I happen to have.
I will not allow my life to be reduced to mere survival, because people with your kind of psychology think that this is the only way for humans to live.
You have abandoned your humanity, (which, like it or not, you share with *everyone* on our planet), in favour of one fearful, profoundly limited group that is committing a heinous crime against members of its own species.
You are making your choice, and I am making mine. It is ludicrous that you are essentially telling me off for choosing to be a full human being, as opposed to a frightened little mammal. Can you see how absurd this is? And why would any human being wish this kind of existence on another?
None of us is safe, if what you mean by safe is not dying. Death comes to all at some point. What matters is not how long we live, but *how* we live and how we use our time and our gifts.
It is ok for you to feel everything you feel. It is what you feel. As a fellow human being, I’m just so sorry for you for the chronic anxiety, and fear you have succumbed to. I wish you only well, but it does not mean I accept what you are prepared to do in the name of your fear, and the (perceived) survival of your ‘people’. We are and always will be members of the same species.
I stand to be corrected; indeed, Yhudah Abarbanel was the father of Don Isaac Abarbanel.
One of your disciples named Sasha wrote the following, quote: "Soo Paul you are not disgussed by the IDF soldiers mass raping people including children, shooting children in the head, burning people alive".
I wish "Sasha" pays more attention to English grammar instead of repeating a litany of unfounded terrible accusations copied from Hitler's Mein Kamph.
How someone with your pedigree and education approves of such an outrageous bunch of lies makes me wonder...
As an IDF veteran I state without hesitation that IDF soldiers will never, ever engage in barbaric behavior such as it is attributed by your follower Sasha. Perhaps she meant Palestinian Hamas and instead she mistakenly typed IDF. One typo per text is excusable, but Sasha has too many typos to be excused.
These are your noble soldiers https://youtu.be/kPE6vbKix6A?feature=shared
You bring a YouTube clip made by Qatar-funded Al Jazeera as evidence of IDF soldiers "barbarism"? Have you asked yourself how objective and truthful are the disjointed film strips glued together by a Qatari film editor?
I am concerned with the sanity of Jews/Israelis who deliberately add fuel to the pyre aiming to wipe out the State of Israel and its 7 million Jewish inhabitants.
Hmm... the question of whether JVP reeks of "gatekeeper" vibes is interesting since you bring it up -- this probably did ever-so-slightly pass through my mind in the past few weeks. OSF appears to have donated a great sum of money to JVP, and its leader Soros is a Zionist gatekeeper as I covered in my "fake Palestine supporters" series... in case it may be of interest for you, Avigail: https://adversusbabylon.substack.com/p/exposing-fake-palestine-supporters-36a